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Post by happycharity on Jan 6, 2015 2:27:49 GMT
I think medicinal anything is ok, but I also think that the festival shouldn't be represented by drug use. We can't and won't prohibit the use of drugs, but shouldn't tell people what to or not to do with drugs. As staff anyways. We would be selling ourselves short.
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Post by currentevents on Jan 6, 2015 5:26:26 GMT
It's kind of hard to completely eliminate the drug conversation when you take into account at some point you could be considering conversations on alternative building materials such as hempcrete and other safer material that can be produced with it.
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Post by annalieb on Jan 6, 2015 7:58:13 GMT
Oh, yes! I absolutely agree that it would not be beneficial to have any type of drug use at the festivals, including alcohol or cigarettes. I feel we would benefit from keeping it as pure as possible, which includes no junk food or dead animal products either.
I meant more that we should include it in discussions on the forum itself relating healing or as a tool for expansion of consciousness. Nature provides us with the tools we need to grow and heal. Because the current law makers doesn't find it beneficial for them to allow us to wake up doesn't mean we can or should accept those imposed limitations.
I agree, Currentevents, hemp is one of the most versatile resources we have. It can be used for food, rope, clothing, paper,
medicine, soap, fuel and so many things.
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Post by currentevents on Jan 6, 2015 8:12:00 GMT
UGH I agree and disagree. Yes the not hurting of animals and ones self should be a focus but I'm not sure if being so against it that it appears we are chastising those things. Consider some people may truly want to bring about change in the world but haven't let go of meat and other things makes for a hard direction to approach from. By aligning your self too far with one side you distance your self from people who really want change and just are not ready to move in certain areas yet.
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Post by currentevents on Jan 6, 2015 8:21:51 GMT
Should focus as much as we can on the move forward and not the things separating us and holding us back. the more it is about the move forward the more people who don't quite hold the same views will be more open to listening to the reasons why we hold these views. Just saying better to focus on what we do agree on and not what we don't. In doing so we will begin to build relationships with those we don't necessarily agree with on everything and through conversation with other view points both sides will grow. In them teaching why they believe what they believe and through explaining exactly why we believe how we believe both sides will learn from conversation of what we want from this world and where we can agree for the better.
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Post by currentevents on Jan 6, 2015 8:45:03 GMT
I would say at minimum it should be fed by local farmers if possible depending on the area it is held. LOL if its close to where a lot of HUM's live maybe growing a garden or something for the festival could be incorporated though.
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Post by Polyhedron on Jan 6, 2015 20:19:37 GMT
I think it would be helpful to clarify drug use. Is marijuana considered a drug here? What about medical marijuana uses for cancer treatments or other illness? Ayahuasca or Ibogaine which from my research are tools for spiritual advancement and healing? (I have no personal experience with the latter two, but I have done extensive research about them because I have a great passion for both expansion of consciousness and natural healing methods). I think censoring these things would be a to do ourselves a disservice since the reason they are getting a bad rap is because they do in fact raise our consciousness and assist with awakening to reality. I will abide by the rules the group decide upon, but I thought this was important to consider and clarify. I will add clarification to the rule. Basically this forum will be accessed/used by people from all around the world. Allowing illegal drug talk first and foremost can bring upon a user, residing in an area where a drug they talk about using on the forum is illegal, reprimand from law enforcement. Forum use has been used as evidence in courts. As an organization we cannot condone the use of illegal drugs for we will be breaking the law by allowing conversation to take place about it being used, procured, sold ect. This makes it especially difficult beings this is an internationally used platform, the forum, so we all have to take into consideration this very delicate situation. This has nothing to do with censorship, this is protection. Everyone has their own ability to go elsewhere to talk about the drugs they may or may not use. That is their right. We do not, however, have the right to allow communication of illegal substances on this forum. That could mean jail time for certain users, especially myself who is admin. Would it be censorship if we told people they cannot talk about acquiring radioactive materials and collaborate together on making an atom bomb? If I created such a forum, myself as well as everyone that was a part of it would goto prison. |
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Post by happycharity on Jan 7, 2015 21:55:36 GMT
I would say at minimum it should be fed by local farmers if possible depending on the area it is held. LOL if its close to where a lot of HUM's live maybe growing a garden or something for the festival could be incorporated though. This s a great idea here! We could eventually have "this community garden made possible by HUM" all over. Cool beans! |
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Post by currentevents on Jan 8, 2015 3:43:04 GMT
I'm wondering if it was done in the right place you could probably buy the land for the festival in a remote area cheaper than you would end up paying every year to a city to rent a place that is in a large city. Then you own the land for the HUM festival. That makes for all kinds of options that you can do with that land. Such as growing crops for the next festival or year round to feed various organizations and people such as the homeless.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2015 4:52:45 GMT
I'm wondering if it was done in the right place you could probably buy the land for the festival in a remote area cheaper than you would end up paying every year to a city to rent a place that is in a large city. Then you own the land for the HUM festival. That makes for all kinds of options that you can do with that land. Such as growing crops for the next festival or year round to feed various organizations and people such as the homeless. I actually think this is a great idea and something to keep in mind. Not only would it be good for all of the reasons you mentioned, but it would give a permanent place to hold retreats for staff, retreats for the public, and a permanent place to provide education... even just give everyone a place to go find some peace |
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Post by Polyhedron on Jan 10, 2015 2:32:43 GMT
Please create a seperate thread for that idea. This thread is specifically about forum rules.
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Post by currentevents on Jan 10, 2015 13:03:13 GMT
I actually have that problem a lot sorry but it is usually the conversation I'm looking to reply to isn't usually in the folder it should be in.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2015 20:59:24 GMT
As conversations evolve, they are bound to branch off into other subjects. I think what @polyhedron is trying to say is, as that happens, new threads should be created specifically for those subjects on their respective boards. Part of the reason things are all over the place, currentevents, is that none of us have been really careful about that and @polyhedron is trying to remind us to keep things organized. So I guess we should get this conversation back and talk about forum rules, and maybe another thread can be started about the location or maybe put some of your suggestions from here in the Suggestions board, currentevents. I really like your idea about the location and I am intrigued by your idea of a community garden for the festival... Please expand on that! |
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Post by Art Noble on Feb 12, 2015 0:49:40 GMT
I have found our bodies can manufacture many of these drugs. I don't bother with them, nor do I condemn those who do. We manufacture them as a by-product of love, so we are all on the right page here.
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Thank you for all of your advice and direction today! I look forward to utilizing it this Saturday and inviting everyone to check out the collaborateusa site and movement. 
